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At Tubal.org we support free speech.  We do NOT censor.  Opinions stated at the members Bulletin Board/Posting Fourm do not necessarily reflect the opinions of  The Coalition for Post Tubal Women, the hosts, or of the site owners.

Be forwarned:  Because we don't censor at times we come under attack by those who want to Suppress the Truth.  For more information about the CPTwomen posting rules and policy, click here:


Is information about PTS censored on the net?

Yes! 

We have documented numerous examples of "censor".
The most recent example is outlined below:

Date:  Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:56:30 -0800 (PST)
From:  "A Weaver"  Subject: Your Latest Post  (Which was cencored in full)
To: June H (cptwomen rep)

You wrote: "Support is needed for women who decide to have tubal ligation. Also needed is information about PTS, which by coming to the internet and this group (gives) you."

Support, yes, but not adding to their already existing fears with mis-information represented by PTS.

...PTLS does not exist.  You are entitled to your view re PTLS, but, I will no longer allow preaching the merits of what I consider to be a hoax in this forum. 

... I want our group to provide *compassion*...

Sincerely
Alena   

Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:16:42 -0800 (PST)
From: james p
Subject: tubal-ligation group
To: June (cptwomen rep)

Dear June,

Last January, the 9th I believe it was, tubal-ligation group moderator Alena Weaver started censoring messages. She censored the post tubal ligation
syndrome debate, in violation of what was then the group's mission statement,

"This discussion forum is set up for either men or women who have been or are considering surgical sterilization. Discussion includes moral support, sharing of experiences and thoughts, and sharing of methods used."

To make matters worse, her censorship was biased. She  approved material which supported her personal preference, i.e. liafail's message 1032, and she
rejected material which did not support her personal preference, i.e., my responses to messages 871 and 1032, even though my responses were of the same subject material as message 1032, that she had approved.

I wrote to Alena and confronted her with her violation of the group's mission statement and her biased censorship. Alena seems to me to have been at first embarrassed at the discovery of her misconduct.  Consequently, she changed the mission statement.

The group's mission statement is now egocentric to  Alena: The mission depends on what Alena wanted just before her tubal, and only she knows that.
Consequently, Alena's egocentric mission statement  gives her carte blanche to censor in anyway that she may see fit.

Clearly, people interested in post tubal syndrome also have an interest in Alena's censorship intentions and misconduct. I am writing to you because you are a group member who has written about PTLS, and I therefore believe that you should know what she has done. Feel free to pass this information along to anyone else that you believe can appropriately benefit.

After Alena changed her mission statement, I recognized that the group no longer provided me a forum to write about PTLS. So things might have ended
there. Unfortunately, Alena decided to do something inexplicable, and, in my view, stupid: She wrote me an unsolicited, long letter arguing that PTLS does not exist, given all of the "reputable" sources which say that it does not. I wrote back to her that I did not understand why she would write to me about PTLS,! since she had posted that she did not like talking about this subject. It seemed to me that her unsolicited letter sought more to convince herself than to convince me. I advised her that her reference to "reputable" sources seemed inappropriate, given her own abuse of her moderator's authority. This brought
me a second unsolicited, and even longer letter reciting again arguments against PTLS and accusing me of gross stupidity for not adopting her views.
Incredibly, she suggested that I could write to her once I recognized the validity of what she was saying!

Instead, I warned her not to write to me again, and I blocked e-mail from her address. 2-3 hours later, I  found that I had been expelled and group settings had been changed to bar my access to the archives.

I just love these people who claim the moral high ground with their "reputable" sources, but turn to insult and censorship when other options run out.

Here is a riddle:
When is a "reputable" source like pornography?
Answer:  A "reputable" source is like pornography when you cannot define it, but you know it when you see it.

I would like to thank you for your comments of message 823 and perhaps others in support of my work. alldoldup@a... (message 772) and corrieston (message 791) thanked me or commented favorably, and I would have liked to write to them too, if I had their full e-mail address. I thank you if you will pass on this message to them.

Sincerely,
Jim

 

Jim:  It is some peoples opinion that this group which you refer to is in place to  "suppress the truth", or possibly that "Alena" is in denial that her doctor could have kept information from her prior to her surgery.  Either way, the practice of censor of information to women about PTS before a tubal  ligation is criminal and unethical.   Her actions (with intent) of keeping information about PTS from women who may be considering a TL (and who may not have been informed)  is doing these women a great disservice.  Her censoring information to women and the group she's hosting is an outrage.